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man, you utterly killed it with this review!!! alex dudok de wit’s book is fire and i'm so glad you ref'd it here... you really hit all the substance and put a cone around every pothole that reviewers tend to hit. seriously fantastic work!!!

takahata in interviews is unsympathetic toward seita to a degree that almost beggars belief (saying, essentially, that he sucks because he reacts to everything like a modern child would, fuck them kids). i genuinely have no idea if he's fronting, or what his damage is. you don't accidentally make a character this nuanced and sympathetic.

toshio okada did a video review (i think the translated version is partly paywalled? it's been a minute) in which he infers from one shot that seita ate the remainder of the watermelon after setsuko's death, then cites kuleshov effect to essentially say, gee, if you look really really closely, there's no evidence that seita is sad about these events at all -- you're just projecting that onto him as the viewer. bro, what? is your next gotcha going to be about how these still pictures aren't really moving? 'he ate the watermelon.' my god, these receipts. seita is my little meow meow, cope harder.

i may have ranted about this before, in which case, please indulge me, but nosaka had so much guilt from his own experiences that the short story was written as a fix-it fic for his life. the fix, in a nutshell: seita makes every effort to save his sister before himself, *doesn't* beat her unconscious for crying, and finally, does the proper thing after his failure and dies. even in his later years, nosaka seems to be on his "i'm kind of a piece of shit, huh. i probably should have died" even in interviews totally unrelated to this work (source: my friend verbally translating tv discussions to me in real time.... sorry lol)

growing up in the wake of the immense futile play-act of wartime nationalism that you capture so beautifully here, nosaka and his generation experienced a total collapse of trust in adults or any authority, which is why i find it interesting that after nosaka spent so many years in the artsy edgelord literary bad-boy posture that he never really shed (clinging to an eternal adolescence? refusing to become part of the corrupt adult establishment?) he went into politics in his later years. there was some family basis for this, but other than that... seems like it breaks the facade a bit, right? there isn't as much about him available to read in english as i wish. ok now i'm done.

thank you so much for this amazing review!!!!

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i watched this movie in high school - by the memory of which house i watched it in, i couldn't have been more than sixteen - and have not been able to bring myself to revisit it since, because of... well... y'know. i was surprised by how familiar it felt reading about it here, which probably says something to the movie's credit, but i would not describe it as a movie whose particulars i remembered very well.

so your note on the question of fault was interesting, because i would say that maybe the number one thing i remembered about watching the movie was the sense that what made it so emotionally unbearable was the idea that setsuko's death was in some ways seita's "fault" - not in the sense of moral culpability but in the sense that... hm... the movie does not foreclose the possibility that if seita had made different choices, setsuko would have lived. (to my recollection it suggests this pretty strongly - and it seems de wit's reading suggests that's true - but i don't remember the specifics well enough to assert so myself.) this stuck with me i think because to me it seemed a level of unbearable beyond what i had expected going into a famously extremely sad movie that tells you in the opening scene it's about watching two children die. i don't think i made any connection to the movie's societal criticism at the time, and i certainly didn't "blame" seita for what happens. i just felt: how awful to watch your sister starve to death; how much more unfathomably brutal to watch her die and think that maybe you could have prevented it. would that really matter, in a circumstance so horrific? i'm fortunate enough to say i'm not sure. but that was how i felt at the time - possibly, it occurs to me now, because i am also an older sibling, and i would have been around seita's age when i watched it (although i felt much older than the character i was watching- but that's kind of the trick of that age; he felt older than he was, too).

i don't think i cried watching it either, but i welled up reading and thinking about it now... i'm historically also not a big movie crier but i seem to become more sensitive to certain things with age and i wonder if i'd cry now. (reading your reflections on it and taking some time to reflect myself has given me a fresh appreciation for it that almost makes me want to brave it again but... i mean...) but also what does make me cry is not really correlated with anything as easily identifiable as "sadness"... the last movie that made me cry was one i mention because i think you said you're planning to cover this director in this series at some point - satoshi kon's millennium actress, which had me weeping at a critical moment - but not because i was sad.

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