The vibe I got from this movie is that it is weirdly less about being a sequel to 2.22 and more about being a sequel to End of Eva. Like, even though we are in a different universe where that movie did not happen, it seems like many of the events of that film are still canon? For instance, Asuka never lost her eye in this universe but she still wears an eyepatch. I think they give you some other reason, but the "real" reason feels like its because she lost it in EoE. Just like the "real" reason everyone is mad at Shinji isn't because he decided to confess his love or whatever at the end of the last movie, but because he decided to undo Gendo's project at the end of EoE and doomed the world to living in the aftermath of that decision.
Obviously, the title "you can not redo" refers, in-universe, to this idea that Shinji can't undo the past 14 years through a time-travel gimmick or angel magick or whatever, but it also refers to the fan expectation that Anno was going to give us a vision of Evangelion that didn't end the way the original franchise did (although maybe based on that interpretation it should have been called "you cannot undo." And that's basically the place the movie ends, with this idea that, whatever happens next, has to happen in the aftermath of everything that came before, including the original franchise ending. You can't "erase" it, you have to commit to living in the present that you made. I assume that's an in-joke of Shinji being asleep for 14 years, End of Evangelion came out in 1997, so 14 years would bring us right up to around the point this movie came out in the real world.
Leaving quality judgments to one side, it feels right to me that the two nerd properties arguably best known for their bizarre endings, Twin Peaks and Evangelion, both eventually got follow-ups that were even more inscrutable. It would be wrong to deprive future generations of those forum debates.
I watched the rebuilds with my mother back in 2020. We got halfway through this one before I had to leave, but on my next visit she asked politely, “Can we watch something else instead?”
We eventually finished it before the final film released (which we finished in one sitting and she liked), but yeah, I think you talked me out of rewatching this one.
This movie is so incredibly frustrating for it's sheer refusal to give you ANY reason to care. What you say about it feeling like the only people alive are the four people in NERV and whoever is piloting the WILLE ship is so true and is so annoying because the show does a great job making it feel like the story we're watching is actually happening in a world.
I also had this problem with the Eva units suddenly being operative in space. Yet they're still on their five minute batteries (but can easily swap in new batteries), so while apparently new capabilities have been added, their single biggest flaw remains totally unaddressed. I hate feeling some "found a plot hole" youtuber but like…
objectively speaking, it’s not a very good movie to the point where even Sagisu’s work on the score & the visuals feel wasted.
On the other hand: [extremely distorted vocoder ] DOOOOOMED YAOIII
The vibe I got from this movie is that it is weirdly less about being a sequel to 2.22 and more about being a sequel to End of Eva. Like, even though we are in a different universe where that movie did not happen, it seems like many of the events of that film are still canon? For instance, Asuka never lost her eye in this universe but she still wears an eyepatch. I think they give you some other reason, but the "real" reason feels like its because she lost it in EoE. Just like the "real" reason everyone is mad at Shinji isn't because he decided to confess his love or whatever at the end of the last movie, but because he decided to undo Gendo's project at the end of EoE and doomed the world to living in the aftermath of that decision.
Obviously, the title "you can not redo" refers, in-universe, to this idea that Shinji can't undo the past 14 years through a time-travel gimmick or angel magick or whatever, but it also refers to the fan expectation that Anno was going to give us a vision of Evangelion that didn't end the way the original franchise did (although maybe based on that interpretation it should have been called "you cannot undo." And that's basically the place the movie ends, with this idea that, whatever happens next, has to happen in the aftermath of everything that came before, including the original franchise ending. You can't "erase" it, you have to commit to living in the present that you made. I assume that's an in-joke of Shinji being asleep for 14 years, End of Evangelion came out in 1997, so 14 years would bring us right up to around the point this movie came out in the real world.
Leaving quality judgments to one side, it feels right to me that the two nerd properties arguably best known for their bizarre endings, Twin Peaks and Evangelion, both eventually got follow-ups that were even more inscrutable. It would be wrong to deprive future generations of those forum debates.
The degree to which Eva and Twin Peaks are mirror works is very weird to me. Even down to EoE and FWWM.
Get in the lodge, Dale.
Nana Genesis Evangelion
evangelion spinoff where two Rei clones meet on a train to Tokyo
I watched the rebuilds with my mother back in 2020. We got halfway through this one before I had to leave, but on my next visit she asked politely, “Can we watch something else instead?”
We eventually finished it before the final film released (which we finished in one sitting and she liked), but yeah, I think you talked me out of rewatching this one.
your poor mom 😭
She has a high tolerance level. I’ve made her watch about seven-tenths of One Piece in no particular order 😆
This movie is so incredibly frustrating for it's sheer refusal to give you ANY reason to care. What you say about it feeling like the only people alive are the four people in NERV and whoever is piloting the WILLE ship is so true and is so annoying because the show does a great job making it feel like the story we're watching is actually happening in a world.
I also had this problem with the Eva units suddenly being operative in space. Yet they're still on their five minute batteries (but can easily swap in new batteries), so while apparently new capabilities have been added, their single biggest flaw remains totally unaddressed. I hate feeling some "found a plot hole" youtuber but like…
This movie sounds so irritating lol
you can (not) get through